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lake pisze:Dla jasności również wg mnie trawa jest w tym roku wolna i wyjątkowo zniszczona ale demonizowanie tego niemal jako przyczyny przejścia przez Nadula trzech rund jest delikatnie mówiąc słabe.
To wszystko są argumenty zgrane bardziej niż trawa po całym turnieju. Jasne, że nie. Zresztą bardziej niż zwalnianie trawy, które następowało stopniowo, i jakieś modyfikacje czy inne poligrasy, grę na tej nawierzchni odmieniły coraz lepsze rakiety i naciągi. Mówiąc już o samym Nadalu, to oglądałem dwa z trzech jego meczów i po latach znów jestem pod wrażeniem, jak ten człowiek potrafił przestawić swój trening po RG na trawę. I przede wszystkim jak dopasował swoją technikę i taktykę do poszczególnych sytuacji na trawie. Nie okopuje się daleko za linią, gra blisko niej i szybko (bo żeby wygrać Wimbledon z głębi, trzeba grać podobnie jak Djoković, jeśli chodzi o pozycję na korcie) i korzysta z elementów wyćwiczonych stricte pod trawę, które dopracował już dekadę temu. Może dalej nie ma tego całkowicie naturalnego ciągu na trawie, ale to też nie Thiem (chyba że coś przegapiłem w tym turnieju) ani Wawrinka, których tenis podobnie jest skrojony na ziemię, a na trawę nie dodają niczego nowego. I przypomnę, że na początku kariery Nadala mówiono, że te jego topspiny odbijają się na trawie przewidywalnie (teraz nie rotuje już tak bardzo), nie używał w ogóle slajsa i nawet do woleja stosował ten swój ekstremalny chwyt (oczywiście dawno temu już go zmienił). Więc ogromny szacunek za opracowanie takiej mieszanki uderzeń, dzięki której dwukrotnie wygrał Wimbledon, co również składa się na jego wyjątkowość jako tenisisty. Coś jak Borg, który też nie miał naturalnego talentu do gry na trawie, tyle tylko, że jego sukcesy były jeszcze bardziej zdumiewające, bo w czasach, kiedy grało się inaczej niż dziś, a jego trener powtarzał, że po zmianie clayu na trawę grał fatalnie i przegrywał na treningach ze wszystkimi.
Del Fed pisze:Jeden finał Rod powinien wyserwować nawet lewą nogą.
W świetle tego, że nie wyserwował nawet prowadzenia 6-2 w tie-breaku i zepsuł prostego woleja, a Federer w finale 2005 otarł się o perfekcję (w ogóle najlepiej grał w 2005 roku, kiedy sprawdziła się przepowienia Riosa, że wygra Wimbledon z głębi kortu, a nie 2006 jak się powszechnie uważa), brzmi to bardzo legitnie. Niczego by nie wyserwował. Miał po prostu pecha w karierze z Federerem.
Ostatnio zmieniony 09 lip 2017, 23:54 przez jonathan, łącznie zmieniany 1 raz.
We look into storylines that emerged during the first week of the grass-court Grand Slam
1. Murray Finds His Footing Again
It’s rare that a top seed and defending champion isn’t seen as the overwhelming favourite to win an event, but some fans were reluctant to book Andy Murray for a third Wimbledon title after his struggles this season and opening round exit to Jordan Thompson at the Aegon Championships. However, the World No. 1 has been riding the support from his home fans into the second week and producing some of his best tennis once again.
The Brit stormed through his first two rounds and then prevailed in the match of the tournament against 28th seed Fabio Fognini. Avenging a loss to the Italian this spring at the Internazionali BNL d’Italia, Murray dug deep for a thrilling four-set victory that is sure to boost his confidence. While the other top seeds have cruised through the draw untested, Murray getting a lengthy win (and two days off) under his belt may serve him well as the competition heats up.
2. Federer And Nadal Continue Turning Back The Clock
Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal are inching closer to their fourth Wimbledon final against each other and their first since 2008. Federer has looked refreshed after skipping the clay-court season, while Nadal hasn’t missed a beat since capturing his 10th Roland Garros title. Both players moved into the second week without losing a set and showed why they’ve won this event multiple times.
The resurgence of both Federer and Nadal this season has now extended to all surfaces. Both men are firmly at the top of the Emirates ATP Race to London, with Nadal holding a hefty lead over Federer (6,915 to 4,545) and at least double the points of his other competitors. A big Wimbledon for both men could see them battling for the top spot in the Emirates ATP Rankings at the end of the season.
3. Djokovic Returns To Top Form
Having 1992 Wimbledon champion Andre Agassi in his corner could be benefitting Novak Djokovic more than some fans originally thought. The Serbian captured his first ATP World Tour title in nearly six months at last week’s Aegon International (d. Monfils) and has continued to build off that momentum at The Championships. Djokovic dropped a mere eight games in his first two rounds and then went on a nine-game run during his third-round win over Ernests Gulbis.
After years of dominance, Djokovic deserves credit for trying a new approach and competing at an ATP World Tour 250 event in the hopes of getting match play. The four matches he received in Eastbourne have helped bring him back to his best form and put him in contention for a fourth Wimbledon title.
4. Zverev Keeps Producing Breakthroughs
Alexander Zverev has continued to produce a banner year in 2017. After winning his first ATP World Tour Masters 1000 title in Rome (d. Djokovic) and making his debut inside the Top 10, the #NextGenATP German is into the second week of a Slam for the first time. Zverev accomplished this in emphatic fashion without dropping a set and defeating two fellow #NextGenATP players along the way.
He now holds at least triple the points over everyone in the Emirates ATP Race to Milan, which determines the seven players who qualify for the Next Gen ATP Finals in Milan from 7-11 Nov. The eighth will be decided by a wild card.
All signs point to this being the first of many deep runs in a major for Zverev. His path doesn’t get easier from here, with Milos Raonic, Federer and Djokovic all in his half of the draw, but Zverev has already scored wins over all three men and has the ability to do so again.
5. Grass Continues To Surprise
The uniqueness of grass-court tennis always leads to plenty of surprise upsets and unexpected players reaching the second week at Wimbledon. This year was no exception, with French veterans Adrian Mannarino and Benoit Paire rising to the occasion to reach the fourth-round.
Both men matched their best result at a major, with Mannarino reaching the last 16 at Wimbledon in 2013 and Paire doing the same at the 2015 US Open. They’ve also enjoyed success on grass leading into this event, with Paire recording a semi-final finish in Stuttgart and Mannarino finishing runner-up in Antalya (l. Sugita).
The two Frenchmen are projected to jump inside the Top 40 of the Emirates ATP Rankings when the newest standings are released, and have the games to continue climbing.
2015: Tokio
2016: Rio de Janeiro, Indian Wells, Waszyngton, Chengdu, WTF
2017: Doha, Sydney, Dubaj, Miami, Marrakesz, Estoril, s-Hertogenbosch
2018: Barcelona,Winston-Salem,Sztokholm, Paryż-Bercy,
2019: Dubaj, Miami, Monachium, Kitzbühel, St. Petersburg, WTF
2020: Adelaide, Rzym
2022: Adelaide 1, Australian Open, Rzym, Halle
2023: Indian Wells, Miami, Barcelona, US Open, WTF
2024: Wimbledon, Winston-Salem
2015: Kuala Lumpur
2016: Queens, Sankt Petersburg
2017: Waszyngton, Winston-Salem, US Open, Sankt Petersburg, WTF
2018: Doha, Miami, Hamburg,
2019: Eastbourne, US Open,
2020: RG, Sofia
2021: ATP Cup
2022: Stuttgart, Eastbourne, Winston-Salem, Florencja
2023: Montpellier, Rzym, Atlanta
2024: Mallorca
MTT (DEBEL) - Tytuły (7) / Finały (7)
2019: RG, Cincinnati, Paryż-Bercy, WTF
2020: RG, US Open
2021: Rzym
2018: WTF
2019: Indian Wells, Madryt
2020: Australian Open
2021: Australian Open, RG, Paryż-Bercy
ATPWorldTour.com breaks down some of the biggest fourth-round matches taking place at The Championships
After having at least a day off due to Wimbledon’s Middle Sunday, the remaining 16 players will be rested and ready to go for their fourth-round matches. From former Wimbledon champions, to #NextGenATP stars and veterans enjoying career-best moments, a wide range of players and matchups highlight Monday’s schedule.
1. Roger Federer v Grigor Dimitrov
The battle between two of the most attractive one-handed backhands on the ATP World Tour will be sure to produce plenty of rallies that delight the Centre Court crowd. Neither player has dropped a set this fortnight, but Dimitrov has produced more dominant scorelines in his matches. The Bulgarian has lost just 12 games in his past eight sets.
Federer’s decision to skip the clay-court season in order to rest and focus on the grass has so far paid off. He’s produced the form that has brought him seven Wimbledon titles, ripping forehand winners and making timely trips to the net to knock off volleys. Centre Court has become all too familiar territory for the Swiss maestro and he’s playing like he knows every inch of the hallowed court.
Dimitrov is once again showing the tennis that brought him two titles to start the year in Brisbane and Sofia. The Bulgarian has moved on from a tame clay-court season and began working his way back into form with a semi-final finish at the Aegon Championships (l. Lopez). Dimitrov’s powerful forehand and variety on his backhand have led to success here before with a semi-final finish in 2014, so he knows what it takes to excel at SW19.
Although Federer leads their FedEx ATP Head2Head 5-0, they’ve never played outside of a hard court. Dimitrov has continued to improve the scoreline with each passing match, taking sets off Federer in their past two matches.
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2. Milos Raonic v Alexander Zverev
Those who are wondering who will take over for the Big Four in the near future need look no further than this Court No. 2 matchup between two of the most talented young stars in the game.
It was perhaps inevitable that Zverev would reach the second week of a Grand Slam at some point in his career, but it’s how he achieved that milestone moment this fortnight that stands out most. The 20-year-old German raced through his first three rounds without losing a set, defeating two fellow #NextGenATP players along the way in American Frances Tiafoe and Austrian qualifier Sebastian Ofner.
Zverev’s continued breakthroughs this season are in stark contrast to the frustrations that Raonic has endured. Right leg injuries have forced the Canadian to withdraw from or pull out of five events this season. But now that Raonic is healthy, he’s been showing the form that brought him to last year’s Wimbledon final in moving past three experienced opponents.
The German won his lone FedEx ATP Head2Head meeting with Raonic this year at the Internazionali BNL d'Italia, but grass is a far more preferred surface for Raonic. He’s already hit 66 aces this tournament, but it will be interesting to see how his serve matches up against one of the best returners in the game in Zverev.
3. Rafael Nadal v Gilles Muller
Although casual tennis fans may expect Rafa to sail past Muller, those who have followed the Luxembourg player’s banner year in 2017 know his lefty serve and serve-and-volley tactics could give Nadal fits.
Muller, who sits at a career-high No. 26 in the Emirates ATP Rankings at age 34, was giving a seeding boost due to his grass-court prowess. He captured his second ATP World Tour title of 2017 at the Ricoh Open (d. Karlovic) and was a semi-finalist at the Aegon Championships. Muller has further continued his success on the lawns by reaching the second week at Wimbledon for the first time.
Meanwhile, Nadal hasn’t missed a beat since capturing his historic 10th Roland Garros title. The Spaniard has been prone to early exits at the All England Club in recent years, but sailed through the first week without losing a set. He will also have the benefit of experience on his side. This is Nadal’s 36th appearance in the second week of a major, compared to three for Muller.
Nadal leads his FedEx ATP Head2Head against Muller 4-1, but two of their matches have come at Wimbledon. Nadal defeated Muller in straight sets in 2011, but the Luxembourg player beat a then-19-year-old Rafa in 2005. Although that match was 12 years ago, he may take confidence in knowing he’s defeated Nadal on these courts before.
2015: Tokio
2016: Rio de Janeiro, Indian Wells, Waszyngton, Chengdu, WTF
2017: Doha, Sydney, Dubaj, Miami, Marrakesz, Estoril, s-Hertogenbosch
2018: Barcelona,Winston-Salem,Sztokholm, Paryż-Bercy,
2019: Dubaj, Miami, Monachium, Kitzbühel, St. Petersburg, WTF
2020: Adelaide, Rzym
2022: Adelaide 1, Australian Open, Rzym, Halle
2023: Indian Wells, Miami, Barcelona, US Open, WTF
2024: Wimbledon, Winston-Salem
2015: Kuala Lumpur
2016: Queens, Sankt Petersburg
2017: Waszyngton, Winston-Salem, US Open, Sankt Petersburg, WTF
2018: Doha, Miami, Hamburg,
2019: Eastbourne, US Open,
2020: RG, Sofia
2021: ATP Cup
2022: Stuttgart, Eastbourne, Winston-Salem, Florencja
2023: Montpellier, Rzym, Atlanta
2024: Mallorca
MTT (DEBEL) - Tytuły (7) / Finały (7)
2019: RG, Cincinnati, Paryż-Bercy, WTF
2020: RG, US Open
2021: Rzym
2018: WTF
2019: Indian Wells, Madryt
2020: Australian Open
2021: Australian Open, RG, Paryż-Bercy
Dośc ciekawie zapowiada się jutrzejszy dzień. Wydaje mi się, że tylko Novak jest 100% faworytem. Oby tylko pogoda nie wtrąciła się do rozgrywek, bo tego bardzo nie lubię.
Anula pisze:Dośc ciekawie zapowiada się jutrzejszy dzień. Wydaje mi się, że tylko Novak jest 100% faworytem.
Oby koledzy Djokovicia z elity też nie ponieśli żadnych większych strat. Z tej czwórki najsłabiej wygląda Murray, ale to jednak taka klasa, że Szkot potrafi wyczarować coś z niczego (jak na RG). Wybiegając dalej, oby też wreszcie ci Novak i Andy dopasowali się do tegorocznych Federera i Nadala (dlatego raczej nie obawiałbym się o nich jutro), cała czwórka spotkała się w optymalnej formie po tylu latach w półfinałach pierwszy raz w Wimbledonie i znów nikt nie mógł się do nich dobrać.
jonathan pisze:... Wybiegając dalej, oby też wreszcie ci Novak i Andy dopasowali się do tegorocznych Federera i Nadala (dlatego raczej nie obawiałbym się o nich jutro), cała czwórka spotkała się w optymalnej formie po tylu latach w półfinałach pierwszy raz w Wimbledonie i znów nikt nie mógł się do nich dobrać.
2015: Tokio
2016: Rio de Janeiro, Indian Wells, Waszyngton, Chengdu, WTF
2017: Doha, Sydney, Dubaj, Miami, Marrakesz, Estoril, s-Hertogenbosch
2018: Barcelona,Winston-Salem,Sztokholm, Paryż-Bercy,
2019: Dubaj, Miami, Monachium, Kitzbühel, St. Petersburg, WTF
2020: Adelaide, Rzym
2022: Adelaide 1, Australian Open, Rzym, Halle
2023: Indian Wells, Miami, Barcelona, US Open, WTF
2024: Wimbledon, Winston-Salem
2015: Kuala Lumpur
2016: Queens, Sankt Petersburg
2017: Waszyngton, Winston-Salem, US Open, Sankt Petersburg, WTF
2018: Doha, Miami, Hamburg,
2019: Eastbourne, US Open,
2020: RG, Sofia
2021: ATP Cup
2022: Stuttgart, Eastbourne, Winston-Salem, Florencja
2023: Montpellier, Rzym, Atlanta
2024: Mallorca
MTT (DEBEL) - Tytuły (7) / Finały (7)
2019: RG, Cincinnati, Paryż-Bercy, WTF
2020: RG, US Open
2021: Rzym
2018: WTF
2019: Indian Wells, Madryt
2020: Australian Open
2021: Australian Open, RG, Paryż-Bercy
2015: Tokio
2016: Rio de Janeiro, Indian Wells, Waszyngton, Chengdu, WTF
2017: Doha, Sydney, Dubaj, Miami, Marrakesz, Estoril, s-Hertogenbosch
2018: Barcelona,Winston-Salem,Sztokholm, Paryż-Bercy,
2019: Dubaj, Miami, Monachium, Kitzbühel, St. Petersburg, WTF
2020: Adelaide, Rzym
2022: Adelaide 1, Australian Open, Rzym, Halle
2023: Indian Wells, Miami, Barcelona, US Open, WTF
2024: Wimbledon, Winston-Salem
2015: Kuala Lumpur
2016: Queens, Sankt Petersburg
2017: Waszyngton, Winston-Salem, US Open, Sankt Petersburg, WTF
2018: Doha, Miami, Hamburg,
2019: Eastbourne, US Open,
2020: RG, Sofia
2021: ATP Cup
2022: Stuttgart, Eastbourne, Winston-Salem, Florencja
2023: Montpellier, Rzym, Atlanta
2024: Mallorca
MTT (DEBEL) - Tytuły (7) / Finały (7)
2019: RG, Cincinnati, Paryż-Bercy, WTF
2020: RG, US Open
2021: Rzym
2018: WTF
2019: Indian Wells, Madryt
2020: Australian Open
2021: Australian Open, RG, Paryż-Bercy