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Fajnie by było, gdyby zlikwidowali te kurniki co są przed samym RG. Mało kto tam jeździ i wychodzą jakieś dziwne obsady potem. Na trawie można grać do samego Wimbla, bo sezon krótki, ale na ziemi to co innego. Wiem, że wiele osób lubi te turnieje (i mają pełne prawo), ale walka na noże o 250 przed samą wielką imprezą to raczej rzadko spotykana rzecz (jeśli dobrze pamiętam to Pan Karol też kilka razy się nad tym zastanawiał, więc nie jestem w tym sam). Dochodzi jeszcze problem kwali do Szlema, które czasem się z tymi kurnikami niemal pokrywają i trzeba wybierać.
Lyon dopiero wszedł do kalendarza, ale mogliby go dać za Stambuł wcześniej, bo tam też szału nie było.
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 wrz 2017, 14:25
autor: lake
No ale przecież nie przeciągną Mastersów do samego RG.
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 wrz 2017, 14:26
autor: DUN I LOVE
No ale co wtedy miałoby być grane? Tylko kwale do szlema? Skoro jest wolny tydzień, to dlaczego ma nie być turniejów?
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 wrz 2017, 14:32
autor: Lucas
Dostaliby wolne, mnie to odpowiada. Gdzieś te dodatkowe dni muszą się jednak znaleźć, więc coś musi ucierpieć.
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 wrz 2017, 14:34
autor: DUN I LOVE
Nikogo nie stać na takie przerwy w sezonie. Te kurniki zresztą to jedne z ciekawszych sezonie ceglanym. Wielu graczy, np. Amerykanie traktują je czasami jako jedyne przetarcie przed RG.
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 wrz 2017, 14:37
autor: Lucas
Nie zmienia to faktu, że kalendarza nie rozciągną. Jeśli tu chcą dodać, to gdzieś musi być odjęte.
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 wrz 2017, 14:39
autor: DUN I LOVE
No ale przecież pisałeś, że dałbyś wtedy wszystkim wolne. Nie skurczy to kalendarza.
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 wrz 2017, 14:43
autor: Lucas
Bo nie wiem jak by to mogło wyglądać, już się zamotałem, ale ATP na pewno coś wymyśli.
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 wrz 2017, 14:45
autor: lake
Raczej wywalą 250 - ki pomiędzy Barcą a Madrytem, ewentualnie przesuną je na ostatni tydzień przed RG. Inaczej tego nie widzę. Ewentualnie MC wystartuje wcześniej a Marakesz i Houston podzielą na tygodnie z Barceloną i Monachium. O ile tego ostatniego nie wywalą z uwagi na pogodę.
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 wrz 2017, 14:46
autor: DUN I LOVE
Ja to uważam, że ta reforma wcale nie jest taka pewna. Podobno powiedział to szef włoskiego związku, ale innych źródeł brak.
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 wrz 2017, 14:48
autor: Lucas
W marcu jak grają długie IW i Miami jest jednak większy luz.
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 wrz 2017, 14:48
autor: Damian
Binaghi powiedział, że są 3 tygodnie dostępne, a więc daty są do ustalenia.
Poczekamy do Londynu i będzie wszystko jasne.
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 wrz 2017, 17:11
autor: jonathan
Lucas pisze:W marcu jak grają długie IW i Miami jest jednak większy luz.
Takie prawie IW-Miami- bis by się szykowało. Niezły pomysł, bo te tygodniowe Mastersy ledwo się zaczną, człowiek nie zdąży ich poczuć i już się kończą. Zresztą to wszystko zmierza w kierunku, aby szczególnie premiować największe turnieje i najlepszych tenisistów i zarabiać coraz więcej pieniędzy, a przedłużenie Madrytu i Rzymu to gwarantuje. Mniejsze turnieje liczą się coraz mniej.
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 wrz 2017, 18:35
autor: lake
W Rzymie chyba tęsknią to trzeba stworzyć bardziej komfortowe warunki dla 33 latka na wciągnięcie nosem mączkowych mastersów i Barcelony w jednym roku
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 21 wrz 2017, 16:36
autor: DUN I LOVE
Szanghaj ma od 2019 także trwać 10 dni, finał w środę.
Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 21 wrz 2017, 16:37
autor: Damian
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Re: Kalendarz ATP Tour
: 12 gru 2017, 13:48
autor: arti
ATP chief Chris Kermode discusses possible changes to tour schedule
Spoiler:
After a year which saw a renaissance in form by Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer combined with injuries to high-profile names, Sky Sports Tennis assess the rigours of the ATP schedule and whether changes to the tennis calendar are forthcoming.
Federer returned from a lengthy injury absence in the second half of the 2016 season while Nadal enjoyed a hugely successful 2017, ending the year as world No 1 for the first time since 2013 - despite being forced to withdraw from the season-ending ATP Finals with a knee injury.
Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic were both forced to skip the second half of the campaign through hip and elbow injuries respectively, while other notable figures including Stan Wawrinka, Milos Raonic and Kei Nishikori were on the sidelines in the closing months of the 2017 campaign.
Federer claimed seven titles and lost only five matches all year but the 19-time Grand Slam champion managed his schedule, missing the entirety of the clay court season in a bid to minimise the risk of injury.
ATP executive chairman and president Chris Kermode, appointed to the role in 2013, spoke in depth to Sky Sports during the ATP Finals in London last month and the former Queen's tournament director admitted that the wave of injuries is being carefully monitored.
Andy Murray's hopes of a third Wimbledon Grand Slam title were hindered by a recurring hip injury
Andy Murray's hopes of a third Wimbledon Grand Slam title were hindered by a recurring hip injury
Kermode, who was also asked about the possibility of the calendar reaching new cities, downplayed fears that injuries to the world's best players would become a recurring theme in years to come describing the events of 2017 as "the most unusual year we've ever had".
Is it time to rethink the schedule after the injuries to high-profile names in 2017?
ATP Executive Chairman & President Chris Kermode answers questions on the wave of injuries at the top of the sport and the likelihood of changes to the ATP schedule.
"I think this is the most unusual year we've ever had, and it's a combination of the tour's set plans before I was in charge, over 10 years ago, to enable a system with giving older players exemptions from certain Masters Series events so if they hit three different sets of criteria they can play three less Masters than everyone else.
"What that has done is enabled players to play older and longer, which was the intention, but what people didn't see was that, with that, players are older and they're going to get more injured. It's that debate about whether it's better to have Roger playing at 36 years old - is that good for the game but he's going to play less and really work his calendar to reduce the number of matches, or do you have a system where people are playing at full pelt, overplaying and getting injured?
"This is the first year that I think we've had such high profile players being injured. That's what has caused the story because, overall, the tour injuries are down six per cent. It's a strange conundrum going on.
It's that debate about whether it's better to have Roger playing at 36 years old - is that good for the game but he's going to play less and really work his calendar to reduce the number of matches, or do you have a system where people are playing at full pelt, overplaying and getting injured?
Chris Kermode
"It is something we need to keep looking at and reviewing and we've got huge medical teams looking at a large amount of data. What is causing injuries - is it that from a young age players haven't been educated enough about hip injuries and stretching? Is it changes of balls across different surfaces and swings? Is it changing the surface?
"When you speak to most players, they'll probably say it's the surface change that causes a lot of the injuries. So rather than saying hard courts are more brutal on the body, maybe if everyone all played on the hard, maybe you would have fewer injuries. But then you get criticised because the game becomes homogenised and there are different styles of play and different speeds. It's a constant balancing act.
"With all these injuries there's a 'is there a culture being formulated by Roger that he can take the time off' that is different to the guys who are actually injured. Dipping in and out and taking the time off, I think that only happens when you are 36 and only happens when you are reaching Grand Slam finals so you reach that amount of points to remain at the top of the ATP rankings. That will only apply to very few players who are going to stay up there. That's why people will play to keep their ranking up.
"The injuries are a different one. Players have had surgeries and I think we mix the Roger with the injuries and they are very different."
After Rafael Nadal pulls out of his Paris quarter-final, Annabel Croft and Greg Rusedski discuss whether the ATP schedule needs changing.
What is the likelihood of a new tournament being added?
"We're reviewing our whole business at the moment. We have 62 events around the world, it is a very compact and very intense calendar. There is a huge demand in various regions for Masters 1000s, 500s and 250s and there is almost too much demand but there are only so many tournaments players can play.
"The importance for me is to balance the global nature of the sport without chasing money. If you do that you could all end up in certain regions of the world and it's not a global spread. We have to protect the cornerstone of Europe and the United States while exploring new markets.
We have 62 events around the world, it is a very compact and very intense calendar. There is a huge demand in various regions for Masters 1000s, 500s and 250s and there is almost too much demand but there are only so many tournaments players can play.
Chris Kermode on the ATP calendar
"I think Africa is one I would like to look at because it is a huge continent. We used to have tennis in Cape Town and Johannesburg. Can that be looked at? I would like to but it's where it all fits in.
"We've talked about [adding a Masters Series event] in this review. I personally wouldn't. The reason the Masters Series tournaments work is because players are committed to play (them), and there are only so many weeks. It's very difficult to add on extra commitment. If you put in a commitment event and people start pulling out because they're injured, it doesn't look great, and I think nine is the perfect number."