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Ja się wyleczyłem z tenisa (a raczej z emocjonalnego podchodzenia do niego). Inne priorytety i szerokie zainteresowania. Tenis oglądam dla przyjemności. A RF? Cieszę się, że wrócił i wciąż gra i niewiele poza tym.
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 19:30
autor: DUN I LOVE
Zazdroszczę.
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 19:39
autor: simon
DUN I LOVE pisze: Nie ma ani jednej rzeczy, która by przemawiała za Szwajcarem w tej chwili.
Za Wawrinką, trzy lata temu, też nic nie przemawiało.
DUN I LOVE pisze:Ok, takiej dominacji jednej ze stron w grach pomiędzy tak wybitnymi postaciami faktycznie chyba nigdzie nie uświadczyliśmy.
Dlatego zawsze powinien być to jeden z głównych punktów w dyskusji o GOAT.
DUN I LOVE pisze:Sam już nie wiem, czy Fabsterzy są tacy niesamowici, czy ta młodzież tak nieudolna.
Też się czasem zastanawiam, czy możliwym jest, aby w jakby nie było dość popularnej dyscyplinie sportu, nastąpiła około 10-letnia przerwa w napływie wybitnych postaci.
No, ale Raonic dzisiaj grał katastrofalnie. Nie wiem, może to ta choroba go osłabiła, ale wyglądał Milos jakby się cofnął w tenisowym rozwoju gdzieś do 2013 roku. Bez bh, z masą nieczystych, pchanych zagrań z głębi. Koślawy bardziej niż w ostatnim czasie. Okropieństwo po prostu. On grał jak w 2013, Rafa też miał momenty przypominajce 2013. Z tego wszystkiego i ja przez chwilę czułem się cztery lata młodszy. Dziwne to wszystko.
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 19:42
autor: DUN I LOVE
simon pisze:
Dlatego zawsze powinien być to jeden z głównych punktów w dyskusji o GOAT.
Jak sobie człowiek pomyśli o kimś takim jak MJ, to stawianie RF jako GOATa jawi się jako kpina z zawodowego sportu (mam na myśli czyste współzawodnictwo).
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 19:48
autor: simon
W ogóle chyba byłby problem ze znalezieniem GOAT-a, który zostałby zdominowany w bezpośredniej rywalizacji przez swojego największego rywala. Może Fed będzie pierwszy, nie wykluczam. To znaczy w oczach wielu będzie nim na pewno.
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 19:50
autor: DUN I LOVE
Novak trochę spuścił z tonu, więc kto wie, czy i Rafa faktycznie nie wróci do wygrywania WS-ów. Dlatego też bym się wstrzymał z tym szwajcarskim specjalistą od wykorzystywania okazji.
A, rezygnuję z zakładania ankiet przed turniejami WS. Niech robią to ludzie bardziej kompetentni ode mnie.
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 19:50
autor: Emu
Oho, zaczyna się o GOACIE. Scenariusz dyskusji przed potencjalnym fedalem jest tak samo przewidywalny jak rozstrzygnięcie tej rywalizacji.
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 19:50
autor: Del Fed
Robertinho pisze: LOVE puścił ordynarnego trolla o tym cieszeniu się Feda z porażek, a widzę, że wszyscy to traktują poważnie. Tak się właśnie kończy nieużywanie emotek w postach.
On powinien mieć z automatu przypisaną emotkę Bernarda i wsio stałoby się jasne.
Jak jeszcze raz najdzie mnie ochota na zadanie pytania o jakiś pożegnalny run Nadala, dajcie mi bana profilaktycznie...Dobrze, że się skapłem, że Gen Usless nie zepnie pośladów na tyle, żeby wypchnąć go z 10, ale patrzyłem przez pryzmat sezonu mączkowego... Życie to największy troll. (ale nie taki, żeby Fed wygrał z alem)
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 19:53
autor: Emu
A, rezygnuję z zakładania ankiet przed turniejami WS.
Nie przesadzaj Dawidzie, jedynie brak Wawriniki był niezrozumiały. Nikt o zdrowych zmysłach nie przewidziałby, że to się potoczy w ten sposób.
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 19:54
autor: DUN I LOVE
Emu pisze:
A, rezygnuję z zakładania ankiet przed turniejami WS.
Nie przesadzaj Dawidzie, jedynie brak Wawriniki był niezrozumiały. Nikt o zdrowych zmysłach nie przewidziałby, że to się potoczy w ten sposób.
W sensie, że Raonic nie wygra?
Decyzja jest ostateczna.
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 19:56
autor: Emu
W sensie, że Nadal dojdzie tak daleko z Rogerem, a top 2 się wykruszy przed ćwiartkami.
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 19:59
autor: Damian
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 20:00
autor: Damian
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 20:02
autor: DUN I LOVE
Zapożyczone z trolla, Fed oglądający Rafę z Raonem:
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 20:09
autor: simon
Chyba podtrzymujecie zdanie, że turniej lepszy i ciekawszy niż w ostatnich dwóch latach?
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 20:12
autor: DUN I LOVE
simon pisze:Chyba podtrzymujecie zdanie, że turniej lepszy i ciekawszy niż w ostatnich dwóch latach?
Tak, chociaż tradycyjna w ostatnim czasie przypadłość chyba nie ustąpiła, niewiele do tej pory niezapomnianych meczów mimo wszystko.
Re: Australian Open 2017
: 25 sty 2017, 20:29
autor: grzes430
Five things we learned on Day 10
Spoiler:
The Big Four aren’t going anywhere, and Serena can see the future.
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Serena Williams, QF, Rod Laver Arena, 25 January 2017
Photo by: Ben Solomon/Tennis Australia
1. The Big Four are still ahead of the next generation
The quarterfinal between Milos Raonic and Rafael Nadal ought to have shown that the generation of Raonic, Marin Cilic, Kei Nishikori and co have now caught up with the ageing Big Four of Roger Federer, Nadal, Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray. But despite Murray and Djokovic being long departed from Melbourne, Federer and Nadal – and arguably Stan Wawrinka – are keeping the Big Four flag flying. One match doesn’t define a generation, but the way Nadal outclassed Raonic, and the sense he left that even if he’d have lost the second set he’d have bounced straight back in the third, suggests the Big Four are still the generation to beat. Of course Grigor Dimitrov, very much a member of the Raonic/Cilic/Nishikori generation, may put the cat among the pigeons if he beats Nadal in Friday’s semifinal, but match Grand Slam results up with the recent champions of the ATP’s Masters 1000s series, and you see why many people believe the next generation to win majors regularly might be the early twentysomethings who make up the #nextgenATP: players like Sascha Zverev, Dominic Thiem, Karen Khachanov, Andrey Rublev and even Nick Kyrgios.
2. Nadal can play on his baseline
There are few holes in Nadal’s game when he’s playing well, but one of the features about the way he plays on all surfaces is how far he stands behind the baseline to receive serve. He gets away with it because he generates so much pace on his returns, but against Raonic he went against type and stood much closer to receive the big serve. Three weeks ago, Raonic beat Nadal in the Brisbane quarterfinals, so before his Australian Open quarterfinal Nadal watched a recording of the Brisbane match with his coaches Toni Nadal and Carlos Moya. They came up with a strategy that Rafa would stand close to the baseline on some serves and well back on others, but the baseline strategy worked so well that he decided to stay on the baseline pretty much the whole match.
3. Williams rates Konta
It may have been a throwaway line from someone who was feeling very generous, but it was clear that Serena Williams really rates Johanna Konta. In her on-court interview after beating Konta 6-2 6-3, Williams said the Sydney-born Briton was sure to win the Australian Open one day, and she confirmed that view an hour later. “She always does really well here,” Williams said. “She tends to do really good in Australia. With her game, I definitely see her as a future champion.” That may explain why Williams was in such a good mood after the win – it clearly felt like more of an accomplishment than some of her other victories here this year.
4. Good hats don’t get signed
Serena enjoys her fashion accessories, but she needed to make a very quick adjustment when she was given a striking pink hat while signing some autographs after her victory over Konta. Williams was reaching up to the balls, programs and photos being handed down from the front row of seats at the Rod Laver Arena, when the hat was thrust towards her. She was just about to sign it when a voice said “Don’t sign it, keep it.” The voice belonged to the legendary Australian racehorse trainer Gai Waterhouse, who was in the crowd and wanted Serena to have the hat. Williams had heard about Waterhouse from a friend a few months earlier, and was grateful to have put two and two together before ruining the hat with her pen.
5. Grigor enjoying Melbourne’s parks
So what does Dimitrov do to relax on his days off? One journalist has been trying to get him to talk about his love life, but the former boyfriend of Maria Sharapova has been resisting the bait. “I’m enjoying my downtime in Melbourne a lot,” he said after beating his off-season practice partner David Goffin. “I’ve been going out to the parks recently, so I’m staying out of trouble. Nothing is distracting me so far. I’m enjoying coming out on court. Maybe I’ll enjoy other things next week.”
As straight-sets victories go, Rafael Nadal’s 6-4 7-6(7) 6-4 victory over Milos Raonic was anything but straightforward. The No.3 seed ignored an adductor injury that flared up midway through the second set to press the Australian Open 2009 champion from first ball to last, but when it mattered, the Spaniard’s experience paid dividends, setting up a semifinal showdown with Grigor Dimitrov.
Match report: Rafa roars to final four
Here are the key moments from Nadal’s first Grand Slam quarterfinal win since Roland Garros 2014.
Set 1 – Raonic serving at 3-3
In the moments before the match, the cameras beneath Rod Laver Arena tracked Raonic as he bounced around the corridors before joining Nadal for the walk to Rod Laver Arena. If it was nervous energy, the No.3 seed had not shaken it by the time play began, framing his first forehand long. Break points came and went for Nadal in the first and fifth games, but the crucial breakthrough came in game seven. The Spaniard had brought up two more break points with searing backhand winners, but it was a weak sliced lob that did for Raonic, who shanked the smash long.
Set 2 – Nadal serving at 0-1
Raonic’s nerves had dissipated by the time the second set began, and he began producing the type of tennis that did for Nadal in Brisbane in the build-up to the Australian Open. Nadal sensed the importance of the moment too, slowing things down as the Canadian reached break point for the first time with some blistering ball-striking. Nadal didn’t flinch when handed a time violation, sending down two fine serves, and looked to be out of the woods when he fired a high backhand for a winner. But Raonic challenged – rightly – to send Nadal back to the baseline, and kept pushing for the breakthrough, aided by a double-fault. But an overcooked volley ended the assault, which might have proved crucial.
Set 2 – Nadal serving at 4-5
This was Raonic’s moment. Crushing a forehand that was too hot to handle for a 0-30 lead, he was gifted two set points when Nadal double-faulted when spinning a second serve wide. The Spaniard saved the first with a service winner before Raonic got a look at the second, only to guide his backhand down the line wide. But the chance hadn’t gone – the duo went toe-to-toe from the baseline, only for Nadal to hesitate after getting Raonic on the run, staying back and netting a dropshot when a few steps forward would have left him volleying into an open court. A third set point for Raonic was saved with a forehand winner. Nadal escaped, but Raonic had made his point. An adductor injury notwithstanding, he was ready to fight …
Set 2 – tiebreak
Nadal, already with that time violation to his name, took an age to change ends at 3-3 – but when he got there it was Raonic who took advantage of the extra time. The Canadian tore forward and produced a pitch-perfect drop volley to snatch a minibreak at 4-3. Nadal seemed to have seen off the danger until Raonic produced his finest shot of the match, a forehand cross-court lob on the run to bring up two set points at 6-4. Now we would see what both men were made of; Nadal served his way out of danger on the first, before Raonic hit his first double-fault of the match on the next; their fates in microcosm. A sixth set point came and went for the Canadian – this time the inside-out forehand betraying him – before Nadal clinched his first and only when a Raonic forehand flew off the net cord and wide.
Set 3 – Raonic serving at 4-5
The best players don’t let up, and when Nadal moved within one game of victory he produced some of his finest tennis, sending Raonic to all corners of the court before chipping in an energy-sapping drop shot that the Canadian did well to get a racquet on. That brought up three match points, and yet again the 14-time Grand Slam champion needed only one, drawing Raonic forward once more before coaxing him into another volley error. With that, Nadal’s 964-day wait for a Grand Slam semifinal berth was over.