ATP Finals 2024

[hokej]

Przyjemne w odbiorze spotkanie, ale bez tego bagna całość pewnie trwała by z godzinkę.

[Kiefer]

Chyba o 18:30 naszego czasu grali finał. Przynajmniej w pierwszych latach WTF w Londynie.

To nie wiem, pamiętam ten finał z 2012 roku i jakoś mi się wryło w pamięć, że kończył się po północy.

Tylko 2-1 nic nie daje młodemu w sumie. Mocno skopał sobie turniej tą wpadką z Ruudem Alcaraz.

Musi liczyć na Rubleva i sam ograć Zvereva.

[Damian]

Musi liczyć na Rubleva i sam ograć Zvereva.

Istnieją dwa scenariusze, gdzie Alcaraz może awansować nawet w przypadku porażki z Niemcem, ale musi liczyć na Andrieja.

1) Zverev wygrywa w 3 setach, a Rubliow w 2 setach; to 1. Zverev i 2. Alcaraz
2) Zverev wygrywa w 2 setach, a Rubliow w 2 setach, to 1.Zverev i liczymy gemy.

[Damian]

Turyn : Nitto ATP Finals - plan gier na czwartek:

Centre Court
start o g. 11:30 : RR [3] Wesley Koolhof  Nikola Mektic  vs [7] Harri Heliovaara  Henry Patten 
nie przed 14:00 : RR [5] Taylor Fritz  vs [7] Alex de Minaur 
nie przed 18:00 : RR [2] Marcel Granollers  Horacio Zeballos  vs [5] Max Purcell  Jordan Thompson 
nie przed 20:30 : RR [1] Jannik Sinner  vs [4] Daniil Medvedev

[Damian]

Sinner & Medvedev square off in Turin group finale

Spoiler:

Fritz faces De Minaur in high-stakes day match

Jannik Sinner, Daniil Medvedev
© ATP

by ATP Staff

— Nov 13

The 2024 Nitto ATP Finals will produce its first two singles semi-finalists on Thursday, as the action in the Ilie Nastase Group concludes. Home favourite Jannik Sinner will seek to wrap up a perfect round-robin campaign when he takes on Daniil Medvedev, after Taylor Fritz and Alex de Minaur meet in the day session. All four men still have a path to qualify for the knockout rounds.

The undefeated doubles duo of Harri Heliovaara and Henry Patten will face Wesley Koolhof and Nikola Mektic in the Mike Bryan Group, while Aussies Max Purcell and Jordan Thompson meet Marcel Granollers and Horacio Zeballos.




[1] Jannik Sinner (ITA) vs. [4] Daniil Medvedev
Playing on home soil for the first time this season, Sinner is in pole position to top the group after a pair of straight-sets wins against De Minaur and Fritz. But the No. 1 in the PIF ATP Rankings could face his toughest test so far this week against Medvedev on Day 5.

Thursday's showdown will break a 7-7 tie in the pair's Lexus ATP Head2Head series. Medvedev dominated the early stages of their rivalry, winning their first six matches, but Sinner has won seven of their past eight.

"[Medvedev] has been one of my key points in evolving myself as a player, because I struggled a lot to beat him," Sinner said in Turin. "Now, every match is quite open, you never know what’s going to happen. He's a very tough opponent."




The Italian edged Medvedev in five sets in this year's Australian Open final, overcoming a red-hot start from his opponent. In that match, Medvedev also showed his ability to evolve with an ultra-aggressive game plan that stunned Sinner in the first two sets.

The pair played another five-setter at Wimbledon, where Medvedev prevailed, though Sinner beat him at the US Open and at the Miami and Shanghai ATP Masters 1000s this season.

You need to play an inch-perfect match to beat [Jannik],” Medvedev said. “From start to finish, you need to be there, you need to make him tired physically and work him out. If you are not able to do it from the start, he gets control of the match and it’s tough to break his rhythm. Very, very tough opponent, especially here in Italy."

Both players approached top form Tuesday in Turin, when Medvedev dominated De Minaur and Sinner outclassed Fritz in perhaps the highest-quality match of the week to date. Their matchup on Day 5 is what the Nitto ATP Finals is all about: two of the very best players in the world putting their very best tennis on display.

<a href='https://ed.atptour.com/en/players/taylo ... ew'>Taylor Fritz</a>, <a href='https://ed.atptour.com/en/players/alex- ... view'>Alex de Minaur</a>

[5] Taylor Fritz (USA) vs. [7] Alex de Minaur (AUS)
Fritz and De Minaur first squared off at the professional level at the 2018 Next Gen ATP Finals, where De Minaur went on to reach the final. Six years later, they'll meet again at the Nitto ATP Finals.

Fritz has shown the sort of form that propelled him to his first US Open final through two matches in Turin. After a statement opening win against Medvedev, he gave Sinner all he could handle in a rematch of their New York final. De Minaur has yet to win a set in his Nitto ATP Finals debut, but Fritz knows the Aussie can never be counted out.

“I played Demon in the second match of this year [at the United Cup] and personally, I thought it was one of the highest levels of tennis that I’ve ever seen on the other side of the court,” he said, reflecting on his 6-4, 6-2 defeat.




De Minaur owns a 5-3 Lexus ATP Head2Head advantage against Fritz, including a 2-0 record across the 2023 and 2024 seasons. He also lauded his opponent after the Turin draw was released.

"Taylor Fritz is powerful, cool under pressure and has a great serve," he said. "He has a lot of firepower about him. He has shown what he is capable of this year."

Both men will face considerable pressure on Thursday, but De Minaur's margin for error is razor thin. The Aussie's only path to the semi-finals is a straight-sets win coupled with a straight-sets victory for Sinner against Medvedev. That would put Sinner through as the group winner and leave the other three men level at 1-2 in matches and 2-4 in sets. From there, percentage of games won would decide who advances in second place.

Doubles Action
Seventh seeds Heliovaara and Patten have matched both Sinner and the German doubles duo of Kevin Krawietz and Tim Puetz by posting a perfect 2-0 record without dropping a set this week. They meet Koolhof and Mektic knowing that winning one set will confirm their first-place finish in the Mike Bryan Group.

Aussies Purcell and Thompson occupy second place in the group at 1-1 and also control their own semi-final destiny, while Granollers and Zeballos need a win and some help in order to advance to the knockout rounds.

https://www.atptour.com/en/news/sinner- ... -5-preview

[DUN I LOVE]

To nie wiem, pamiętam ten finał z 2012 roku i jakoś mi się wryło w pamięć, że kończył się po północy.

Widzę, że tamten był o 21 i skończył się chwilę po 23:30.

Federer serwował na 1-1 w setach i miał 40-15.

[Nando]

Kibicujmy, wspierajmy, po prostu bądźmy z nim.

[DUN I LOVE]

Póki co jest na korcie, cały czas. Nieźle tam się w głowie coś przestawiło.

[no-handed backhand]

Kibicujmy, wspierajmy, po prostu bądźmy z nim.

[Kamileki]

Póki co jest na korcie, cały czas. Nieźle tam się w głowie coś przestawiło.

Trening z psem. Tak jak Ronaldinho.

[Kiefer]

To nie wiem, pamiętam ten finał z 2012 roku i jakoś mi się wryło w pamięć, że kończył się po północy.

Widzę, że tamten był o 21 i skończył się chwilę po 23:30.

Federer serwował na 1-1 w setach i miał 40-15.

Pierwszy set również przegrał w swoim stylu.
Nie było za wiele dobrych finałów ATP, ten mi chyba najbardziej zapadł w pamięć, tylko wynik był nie taki.

[Kamileki]

To nie wiem, pamiętam ten finał z 2012 roku i jakoś mi się wryło w pamięć, że kończył się po północy.

Widzę, że tamten był o 21 i skończył się chwilę po 23:30.

Federer serwował na 1-1 w setach i miał 40-15.

Pierwszy set również przegrał w swoim stylu.
Nie było za wiele dobrych finałów ATP, ten mi chyba najbardziej zapadł w pamięć, tylko wynik był nie taki.

Były zacięte mecze Daniiła i Cipasa z Thiemem w 2019 i 2020, ale jeśli szukać finału z dobrym tenisem oraz wynikiem na żyletki to trzeba się cofnąć aż do 2005 roku.

Big 3 nie uraczyła nas ciekawymi meczami o puchar. Nie było ich też dużo jak na ich standardy - łącznie 5. To spotkanie z 2012 i tak jest najlepsze i wbrew suchemu wynikowi bardzo wyrównane. Nadal coś tam próbował z Rogerem w 2010, ale skończyło się w deciderze jak skończyło. A finały z lat 2013-2015 to do jednej bramki w tym jeden walkower.

[DUN I LOVE]

2010 to był bardzo fajny finał. W świetnej formie był wtedy RF.

[Jacuszyn]

Pamiętam moje zwycięstwo w MTT xD

[DUN I LOVE]

To był w tamtych latach (08-11) mój jedyny sezon bez finału WTF. 3 tacki, a później już się nie zbliżyłem do tamtego poziomu.

[Damian]

................ vs ................


[3] Wesley Koolhof  Nikola Mektic  1 - 1 [7] Harri Heliovaara  Henry Patten 



Carlos Bernardes

[Damian]

What are the Nitto ATP Finals qualification scenarios?

Spoiler:

Learn who has qualified and who still has a chance
November 14, 2024
The Nitto ATP Finals champion receives the Brad Drewett Trophy.
Andrew Eichenholz/ATP Tour
The Nitto ATP Finals champion receives the Brad Drewett Trophy.
By ATP Staff
The Nitto ATP Finals is down to the final round of group-play matches. Who will advance to the semi-finals of the season finale?

The only qualifiers so far are Kevin Krawietz and Tim Puetz, who have won the Bob Bryan Group.

No. 1 in the PIF ATP Rankings Jannik Sinner is 2-0 in the Ilie Nastase Group and in good position to earn his place in the knockout rounds for the second consecutive year. The Italian faces Daniil Medvedev on Thursday evening.

See below for the full list of Nitto ATP Finals qualification scenarios.

Qualifications

- Kevin Krawietz and Tim Puetz have won the Bob Bryan Group with one round-robin match remaining and qualified for the semi-finals.

Singles Ilie Nastase Group qualification scenarios after the completion of the 2nd round of the event's group stage:

1) Regardless of score, if J. SINNER defeats D. MEDVEDEV and T. FRITZ defeats A. DE MINAUR, then J. SINNER wins the group and T. FRITZ qualifies 2nd.

2) Regardless of score, if D. MEDVEDEV defeats J. SINNER and A. DE MINAUR defeats T. FRITZ, then D. MEDVEDEV wins the group and J. SINNER qualifies 2nd.

3) If J. SINNER defeats D. MEDVEDEV in 2 sets and A. DE MINAUR defeats T. FRITZ in 2 sets, then J. SINNER wins the group and order of remaining players is determined by % of games won.

4) If J. SINNER defeats D. MEDVEDEV in 2 sets and A. DE MINAUR defeats T. FRITZ in 3 sets, then J. SINNER wins the group and T. FRITZ qualifies 2nd.

5) If J. SINNER defeats D. MEDVEDEV in 3 sets and A. DE MINAUR defeats T. FRITZ in 2 sets, then J. SINNER wins the group and D. MEDVEDEV qualifies 2nd.

6) If J. SINNER defeats D. MEDVEDEV in 3 sets and A. DE MINAUR defeats T. FRITZ in 3 sets, then J. SINNER wins the group and T. FRITZ qualifies 2nd.

7) If D. MEDVEDEV defeats J. SINNER in 2 sets and T. FRITZ defeats A. DE MINAUR in 2 sets, then A. DE MINAUR is eliminated and order of remaining players is determined by % of games won.

If D.MEDVEDEV defeats J. SINNER in 2 sets and T. FRITZ defeats A. DE MINAUR in 3 sets, then D. MEDVEDEV wins the group and J. SINNER qualifies 2nd.

9) If D. MEDVEDEV defeats J. SINNER in 3 sets and T. FRITZ defeats A. DE MINAUR in 2 sets, then J. SINNER wins the group and T. FRITZ qualifies 2nd

10)If D. MEDVEDEV defeats J. SINNER in 3 sets and T. FRITZ defeats A. DE MINAUR in 3 sets, then J. SINNER wins the group and T. FRITZ qualifies 2nd.


Singles John Newcombe Group qualification scenarios after the completion of the 2nd round of the event's group stage:

1) Regardless of score, if A. ZVEREV defeats C. ALCARAZ and C. RUUD defeats A. RUBLEV, then A. ZVEREV wins the group and C. RUUD qualifies 2nd.

2) Regardless of score, if C. ALCARAZ defeats A. ZVEREV and A. RUBLEV defeats C. RUUD, then C. ALCARAZ wins the group and A. ZVEREV qualifies 2nd.

3) If A. ZVEREV defeats C. ALCARAZ in 2 sets and A. RUBLEV defeats C. RUUD in 2 sets, then A. ZVEREV wins the group and order of remaining players is determined by % of games won.

4) If A. ZVEREV defeats C. ALCARAZ in 2 sets and A. RUBLEV defeats C. RUUD in 3 sets, then A. ZVEREV wins the group and C. RUUD qualifies 2nd.

5) If A. ZVEREV defeats C. ALCARAZ in 3 sets and A. RUBLEV defeats C. RUUD in 2 sets, then A. ZVEREV wins the group and C. ALCARAZ qualifies 2nd.

6) If A. ZVEREV defeats C. ALCARAZ in 3 sets and A. RUBLEV defeats C. RUUD in 3 sets, then A. ZVEREV wins the group and C. RUUD qualifies 2nd.

7) If C. ALCARAZ defeats A. ZVEREV in 2 sets and C. RUUD defeats A. RUBLEV in 2 sets, then A. RUBLEV is eliminated and order of remaining players is determined by % of games won.

If C. ALCARAZ defeats A. ZVEREV in 2 sets and C. RUUD defeats A. RUBLEV in 3 sets, then C. ALCARAZ wins the group and A. ZVEREV qualifies 2nd.

9) If C. ALCARAZ defeats A. ZVEREV in 3 sets and C. RUUD defeats A. RUBLEV in 2 sets, then A. ZVEREV wins the group and C. RUUD qualifies 2nd.

10) If C. ALCARAZ defeats A. ZVEREV in 3 sets and C. RUUD defeats A. RUBLEV in 3 sets, then A. ZVEREV wins the group and C. RUUD qualifies 2nd.

Doubles Bob Bryan Group qualification scenarios after the completion of the 2nd round of the event's group stage:

1) Regardless of score, if M. AREVALO / M. PAVIC defeat S. BOLELLI / A. VAVASSORI and R. BOPANNA / M. EBDEN defeat K. KRAWIETZ / T. PUETZ, then K. KRAWIETZ / T. PUETZ win the group and M. AREVALO / M. PAVIC qualify 2nd.

2) Regardless of score, if M. AREVALO / M. PAVIC defeat S. BOLELLI / A. VAVASSORI and K. KRAWIETZ / T. PUETZ defeat R. BOPANNA / M. EBDEN, then K. KRAWIETZ / T. PUETZ win the group and M. AREVALO / M. PAVIC qualify 2nd.

3) Regardless of score, if S. BOLELLI / A. VAVASSORI defeat M. AREVALO / M. PAVIC and R. BOPANNA / M. EBDEN defeat K. KRAWIETZ / T. PUETZ, then K. KRAWIETZ / T. PUETZ win the group and S. BOLELLI / A. VAVASSORI qualify 2nd.

4) Regardless of score, if S. BOLELLI / A. VAVASSORI defeat M. AREVALO / M. PAVIC and K. KRAWIETZ / T. PUETZ defeat R. BOPANNA / M. EBDEN, then K. KRAWIETZ / T. PUETZ win the group and S. BOLELLI / A. VAVASSORI qualify 2nd.

Doubles Mike Bryan Group qualification scenarios after the completion of the 2nd round of the event's group stage:

1) Regardless of score, if M. GRANOLLERS / H. ZEBALLOS defeat M. PURCELL / J. THOMPSON and W. KOOLHOF / N. MEKTIC defeat H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN, then W. KOOLHOF / N. MEKTIC win the group and H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN qualify 2nd.

2) Regardless of score, if M. PURCELL / J. THOMPSON defeat M. GRANOLLERS / H. ZEBALLOS and W. KOOLHOF / N. MEKTIC defeat H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN, then H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN win the group and M. PURCELL / J. THOMPSON qualify 2nd.

3) Regardless of score, if M. PURCELL / J. THOMPSON defeat M. GRANOLLERS / H. ZEBALLOS and H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN defeat W. KOOLHOF / N. MEKTIC, then H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN win the group and M. PURCELL / J. THOMPSON qualify 2nd.

4) If M. GRANOLLERS / H. ZEBALLOS defeat M. PURCELL / J. THOMPSON in 2 sets and H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN defeat W. KOOLHOF / N. MEKTIC in 2 sets, then H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN win the group and M. GRANOLLERS / H. ZEBALLOS qualify 2nd.

5) If M. GRANOLLERS / H. ZEBALLOS defeat M. PURCELL / J. THOMPSON in 2 sets and H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN defeat W. KOOLHOF / N. MEKTIC in 3 sets, then H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN win the group and M. GRANOLLERS / H. ZEBALLOS qualify 2nd.

6) If M. GRANOLLERS / H. ZEBALLOS defeat M. PURCELL / J. THOMPSON in 3 sets and H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN defeat W. KOOLHOF / N. MEKTIC in 2 sets, then H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN win the group and M. PURCELL / J. THOMPSON qualify 2nd.

7) If M. GRANOLLERS / H. ZEBALLOS defeat M. PURCELL / J. THOMPSON in 3 sets and H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN defeat W. KOOLHOF / N. MEKTIC in 3 sets, then H. HELIOVAARA / H. PATTEN win the group and M. PURCELL / J. THOMPSON qualify 2nd.

https://www.atptour.com/en/news/nitto-a ... -scenarios

[DUN I LOVE]

Day 5.

Spoiler:

67.WTF Londyn 2014 741
68.Miami 2015 736
69.Indian Wells 2016 733
70.Monte Carlo 2018 719
71.Miami 2014 711
72.Cincinnati 2014 705
73.Rzym 2022 690
74.Toronto 2023 680
75.Cincinnati 2013 678
76.ATP Finals 2024 677 (Day 5)

[Barty]

2010 to był bardzo fajny finał. W świetnej formie był wtedy RF.

Spoiler:

Półwoleje z bananów od 0:30 do 1:30.

Ciekawe, czy doczekamy się szlagierowego półfinału Sinner-Alcaraz. To by było coś w stylu Fighter-Jacuszyn.

[DUN I LOVE]

Słynna wymiana tamten punkt.

Świetnie ten bh RF chodził tamtego dnia/tygodnia.